On Monday October 11th Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) and Republican challenger Ron Johnson squared off in another debate. The only problem was that it wasn’t televised for all of Wisconsin too see. Had most been able to see the debate they would have been reminded again as to why they’ve asked Russ Feingold to represent their interests in D.C. for so long.
First from Uppity Wisconsin:
If you missed it, just put a clothes pin on you tongue, ask anyone to ask you question and right as you open your mouth to answer, have them hit you over the head with two bowling pins– that would be a close facsimile of Ron Johnson’s performance Monday night.
The format was actually a debate and the questions were great.
Johnson tried to stick to his moronic pull-string answers, but it became clear to everyone watching or listening that this was all Johnson had by the halfway point of the debate.
One memorable (and loaded) question was aimed toward Johnson and went something along the lines of, “Isn’t your favorite book, Atlas Shrugged, a rich person’s fantasy that thinks of poor people as nothing more than parasites and isn’t Ayn Rand’s central premise selfishness?” Johnson reached to the back of his head, pulled the string and answered, “Well… you see… Atlas… represents the producers (like me) and he is shrugging because he is tired of dealing with all the regulations and taxes.”
Typical of the evening, Feingold responded that “the only people shrugging are the lower 99% percent, because you guys in the top 1% keep screwing us over.” OK, not an exact quote — but Feingold did start of his response that way and that was the jist of what he was saying.
Another memorable moment was when the moderator asked about bipartisanship and getting things done and Johnson made a complete ass of himself by perking up and saying, “well… ACTUALLY… the last ten years I’ve been involved in all kinds of BOARDS and COUNCILS in Oshkosh and I’ve really learned to work with people and get things done.” I expected him to compare his organizing of the Oshkosh Catholic Schools bake sale to McCain-Feingold. What a jack ass.
Feingold should just buy an hour of air time on the Monday night before the election so all of Wisconson see what a bafoon they would be getting if they elected Johnson.
As one of the co-authors and sponsors of the The McCain-Feingold campaign-finance law it was no surprise that Feingold would bring up the enormous amounts of money being dumped in WI by secret groups on behalf of the virtually unknownin his hometown factory
owner inheriter Ron Johnson.
Feingold, who is seeking his fourth term, issued his challenge during the candidates’ second debate in four days. Recent polls suggest Johnson has a slight lead.
Johnson said he hasn’t objected to third-party attack ads in his favor because the groups behind them have a right to free speech. He also said he has no control over the groups.
A better solution, he said, is “total transparency on the Internet,” where donors’ names could be listed for everyone to see.
The exchange came in response to a question about a Supreme Court ruling this year that made it easier for corporations and unions to spend money in elections.
“Easily one of the worst decisions in the history of the Supreme Court,” Feingold said. It allows outside groups with no accountability to exert dangerous influence on Wisconsin’s race, he said.
In a spirited exchange, Feingold repeatedly called on Johnson to demand that the groups disclose who their donors are. After continuing to insist that nothing he said would matter, Johnson eventually shrugged and said, “Disclose.”
A number of ads have run on Wisconsin television accusing Feingold of supporting expensive bills that have run the government deeper into debt. One was from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a group that Democrats allege — with no evidence — is financed through foreign funds.
Johnson told reporters afterward that Feingold is himself the beneficiary of third-party fundraising, such as the left-leaning MoveOn.org and labor unions.
“Sure, disclose who your donors are (too),” Johnson said.
During the hourlong debate, Johnson added more substance to his criticisms of health care reform. He has previously said the main reason he’s running for office is to repeal the law.
A panelist asked how Johnson could justify repealing aspects of the bill that are widely seen as popular, such as the idea that insurance companies can no longer deny coverage on the basis of pre-existing conditions.
“The individual problems with health care could have been addressed with individual bills,” he said. That would have eliminated the more costly and unnecessary parts of the measure, he said.
Feingold said Congress did try to pass smaller bills but the insurance industry kept killing them.
Johnson allowed himself some wiggle room on the issue of Social Security. He has repeatedly said he opposes privatization but that all options are on the table.
On Monday he said he’d take two options off the table: a “job-killing payroll tax increase” and forcing privatization on anyone.
Johnson attacked Feingold over the senator’s support of the economic stimulus bill. Johnson, who runs a 120-person plastics company in Oshkosh, said jobs are created by small businesses like his, not through government programs.
Feingold countered that the bill led to tax cuts for 95 percent of working families and funded projects in construction and weatherization. Even so, he added, the bill was an emergency act meant to provide immediate support, not to create long-term jobs.
In response to a question about climate change, Johnson reiterated that he doesn’t believe it has been proven that mankind has contributed to global warming. Feingold said he trusts the judgment of scientists who acknowledge global warming is real.
The issue of free speech arose a second time in the debate. Johnson criticized Feingold for not supporting a resolution censuring MoveOn.org for running an ad in 2007 referring to Gen. David Petraeus, then the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, as “General Betray Us.”
Feingold said MoveOn.org was entitled to its opinion, and added that the Senate had more important things to worry about than reprimanding the group.
“This is serious work we do in the Senate,” he said.
It’s clear who is right for Wisconsin and that is Senator Russ Feingold. No doubt about it. He’ll defend our rights to privacy(remember he’s the ONLY senator to vote AGAINST the Patriot Act), our right to fair and honest elections and our rights to pursue the American Dream.